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dw_arthurtoday at 5:38 PM4 repliesview on HN

A surveillance state was always inevitable once wireless networking, GPS, and cameras were ubiquitous. If you say this isn't true, show me anywhere in the world with these technologies that is not headed down this path.


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ch4s3today at 6:51 PM

It’s inevitable that some country would do it, but not inevitable that any given nation would do so, except maybe the CCP.

notfromheretoday at 5:55 PM

its inevitable if you do nothing to organize politically against it.

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uoaeitoday at 6:03 PM

Europe is, compared to the US, doing a lot more for protection of private data. That includes strict guardrails on what data can be collected and how it is used.

Secret courts still exist but the phenomenon of random Flock employees spying on children in locker rooms at gyms is so much harder to get away with in a system with a modicum of decency.

Chat control was actually shot down, and that was the UK not Europe (anymore).

Laws are different in different places. The world is not composed of America and other-Americas.

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thaumasiotestoday at 6:13 PM

A scene from the Chinese 1980s period drama "Like a Flowing River 2":

Lei Dongbao, party secretary of a small village, is courting the owner of a restaurant in a nearby city. He persuades her to let him care for her young son over the weekend.

As he's heading back to his village on his motorcycle with the boy seated behind him, he drives by some women resting in the shade by the side of the road. One of them remarks to another, "Why does the secretary have a child?"

By the time he arrives at his office, all of his subordinates - and one of their wives - have turned out to meet him and say hello to the child.

https://www.basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2019/9/...

> Citizens, on the other hand, don’t like red light cameras because they don’t want to be fined. They complain that the cameras are an invasion of their privacy. I don’t buy that because I grew up in a small town, and as such I understand that privacy is a myth.