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mtlynchtoday at 1:43 PM7 repliesview on HN

One of the things I like about this is that OP is giving people genuine compliments without any particular agenda.

It reminds me of one of my favorite parts of How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie, where he tells a story about complimenting someone, and a student asks what he was hoping to gain from offering the compliment. Carnegie is incensed:

> I was waiting in line to register a letter in the Post Office at Thirty-Third Street and Eighth Avenue in New York. I noticed that the registry clerk was bored with his job[...] So while he was weighing my envelope, I remarked with enthusiasm: “I certainly wish I had your head of hair.”

> He looked up, half-startled, his face beaming with smiles. “Well, it isn’t as good as it used to be,” he said modestly. I assured him that although it might have lost some of its pristine glory, nevertheless it was still magnificent. He was immensely pleased. We carried on a pleasant little conversation, and the last thing he said to me was: “Many people have admired my hair.”

> I told this story once in public; and a man asked me afterwards: “What did you want to get out of him?”

> What was I trying to get out of him!!! What was I trying to get out of him!!!

> If we are so contemptibly selfish that we can’t radiate a little happiness and pass on a bit of honest appreciation without trying to screw something out of the other person in return—if our souls are no bigger than sour crab apples, we shall meet with the failure we so richly deserve.

> Oh yes, I did want something out of that chap. I wanted something priceless. And I got it. I got the feeling that I had done something for him without his being able to do anything whatever in return for me. That is a feeling that glows and sings in your memory long after the incident is passed.


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alexmuresantoday at 1:59 PM

I avoided this book for a long time. for some reason I got it in my head that it's a sort of red pilled book that teaches you how to manipulate people. I know it's very shallow on my side, but I somehow crystallized this opinion based on a few acquaintances that claimed to read it and instead that they include the name of a person they just met in every sentence because it made that person like them more.

Your comment made me consider reading it. This rant about radiating happiness towards people without expecting something in return gives me a different insight on his reasons for writing the book.

I might give it a shot. Thank you

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pjmlptoday at 3:02 PM

This seems to be a cultural problem to me.

There are societies where talking to strangers all over the place is normal, without any hidden agenda.

Or even dancing with random people at the club, many times never to be seen again. Just to give a more intim kind of example.

While in other cultures, seems that unless there is something to gain from the effort, people don't even try.

cm2012today at 2:56 PM

I read this book when I was 18 and took it to heart. I love complimenting people. Its such a joy.

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dijittoday at 1:50 PM

> ... OP is giving people genuine compliments without any particular agenda.

It takes some effort to be good at doing this, if people aren't used to getting any kind of compliment then it can land as super awkward.

(hint: avoid commenting on peoples physical appearance directly, always clothing, or hair, make-up, jewellery/watches -- or ideally how they handle themselves)

The "trick" is confidence, knowing in yourself that you mean well and, if challenged doubling down with a broad genuine smile, don't try to half-ass the smile because it makes things awkward-er.

The other thing is that compliments can be broad, but criticisms have to be very specific.

Once you get the hang of it you can make peoples days genuinely better effortlessly, by just saying the positive thing that you're thinking.

"How are you today" → "Better, now you're here" -- Isn't cheesy, if you mean it.

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soperjtoday at 3:13 PM

Unwarranted compliments is my biggest red flag.

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dfxm12today at 2:53 PM

One of the things I like about this is that OP is giving people genuine compliments without any particular agenda.

Wanting that priceless glowing and singing feeling is an agenda.

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VoodooJuJutoday at 1:49 PM

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