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The Car That Watches You Back: The Advertising Infrastructure of Modern Cars

50 pointsby caditotoday at 2:01 AM29 commentsview on HN

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jmward01today at 5:03 AM

This one issue, privacy, has stopped me from buying a new car. It is stopping me from even buying a used one since it is hard to figure out how far back you need to go to be rid of these things. Screaming at the wind though isn't helping. We need actual real options. I will buy something that it privacy aware. This is YC. Someone, build the startup that sells that and you have my money.

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incoren3today at 5:19 AM

The newest car I own is 14 years old, and the next one I buy will have a carburetor.

And you better believe I will ride around on a fucking HORSE before I put up with ads on my dashboard. Screw that noise.

everyonetoday at 5:16 AM

I guess just stick to cars from mid 2000's and older.

There is another issue with newer cars too, They have extremely loose piston rings, after X thousand miles they burn as much oil as a 2 stroke.

https://youtu.be/Ft12aZffCEg?si=uYlRABoqweTOKaoi

caditotoday at 2:01 AM

The transition started with drive-by-wire and the CAN bus, but the moment they added cellular modems, the dashboard became a platform. Automakers are currently running the exact same programmatic targeting logic as web publishers and in-store retail networks. The only difference is they conveniently left out all the consent infrastructure we forced onto the web.

Tried to look at the actual ad-tech and architecture driving this rather than just doing another "touchscreens are bad" rant.

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mmoosstoday at 4:16 AM

What are the options for cars that don't track you? For example, new cars that don't include tracking, cars old enough to not have it, cars that can be modified (e.g., parts disconnected, software updated) to stop it, etc.

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dackdeltoday at 4:57 AM

a fully disconnected car that does not report back to its mother ship. does. not. exist. only other option is to buy a car old enough that does not have it. also if you didn't bring this up most north americans would be blissfully unaware, as long as the car has a good cup holder.

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downrightmiketoday at 3:01 AM

$60k min, 80+month loans, Insurance++, and you are still the product. So much for the freedom of the open road.

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dmitrygrtoday at 5:02 AM

replacing the antenna with a 50-ohm resistor works very well. The car thinks it is out of cell reception and continues to work. No manufacturer would dare have their cars stop working merely due to it being in Montana (indistinguishable from having no cell antenna/reception).

VladVladikofftoday at 3:45 AM

Awful writing. Cant stand that LLM generated drivel. Ruins it for me.

On the topic however I do wish there was a fully disconnected modern car. Maybe a Corolla with base trim has no starlink?

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fiatpandastoday at 4:44 AM

An interesting late stage capitalism ad hack I’ve seen in cars : OTA digital radio transmits track metadata like artist, title, and album artwork. I’ve seen some stations transmit tiny square ads in place of album artwork, even while the song is playing.