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rjh29yesterday at 6:33 PM11 repliesview on HN

Anecdotally the 15/month basic Gemini plan allows coding all day. I'm not hitting the limits or needing to upgrade to 100/month plans like other people are doing with Claude or Codex.

Caveat: Gemini has been dumbed down a few times over the last year. Rate limits tightened up too. So it might not be this good in the future.


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rapindtoday at 1:55 AM

Just a heads up that you cannot opt out of training on any of their "personal" plans (including Ultra) last time I checked. Both Claude and ChatGPT allow you to opt out of training on their paid plans.

It would be nice if this was a bit more obvious and clear too.

Zarathrusteryesterday at 7:01 PM

Where are you using it? Is Gemini CLI at a usable state? It was a frustrating, miserable experience last time I gave it a shot.

Antigravity seems significantly better in comparison, but with lower usage limits. If I run out, I usually don't bother switching to Gemini CLI.

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freedombenyesterday at 7:04 PM

I got really burned by that quality reduction. I subscribed to the AI pro level, and was using it quite a bit, but I stopped because I had to be super attentive to the output because it would make simple mistakes. It was really a shame, because for a while they're Gemini was the best and the AI pro level would allow you enough usage to use it throughout the day as long as you weren't hammering it

onlyrealcuzzotoday at 12:51 AM

I find Gemini to be quite good / acceptable at code review, design, and design review, but it's notably far behind Claude Code for implementation.

Are you having better results?

Codex is fast and decent, but I REALLY have to stay on top of it. The amount of times it makes executive design decisions on the fly to completely break everything is way too high.

kingleopoldyesterday at 7:31 PM

no 15/month does not enough all day? pls dont share wrong info, 3.1 pro CLI sometimes wait 20-30 min thinking sometimes, it's by far worse compared to others.It finishes with few hours of work mostly, but in openai they give you 6 times of that in 24 hours, gemini resets one time a day. It is literally lazy and so many times does half work. I'm a power user for all top models in top 3 AI companies, only Gemini 3.1 waits so long and it's so slow. Even Gemini pro 3 and pro 2.5 was not like this at all

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diordiderotyesterday at 10:06 PM

I find it really really slow compared to gpt/Claude

kissickasyesterday at 8:24 PM

I only see plans for $8, $20, and $250/month... which one are you using exactly?

https://gemini.google/subscriptions/

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threecheeseyesterday at 7:03 PM

Are you using their TUI, or just their APis in another harness?

nullsanityyesterday at 10:00 PM

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lucb1eyesterday at 8:33 PM

I don't know if people know this, but using it all day (say 8h) costs between 0.7 and about 14 kg of CO2 in the US, depending on which region's grid power they use (or, if they run off of generators, the gCO2e/kWh might be very different from these bounds). With 225 working days per year (assuming no night or weekend use), in the worst region that's 50% of the CO2 the average european person uses in a year, just for this assist function; in the best region (a few counties currently running on 100% hydropower) it makes no difference of course because the energy is running down the hill whether you use it or not. Maybe it could otherwise have been exported or stored but there's only so much interconnect and storage

Edit: and this 15$ subscription (again assuming 225×8h use per year divided by 12 months) uses the equivalent of about 150€/month worth of electricity at the rate I'd pay at home. That sounds close to the cost price (ignoring capex on the servers and model training) Google would be able to negotiate with electricity providers. Would be interested in how this works out for them if someone knows

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