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ajrosstoday at 6:12 PM5 repliesview on HN

Absolutely hilarious to me that the biggest catalyst toward global attention to renewables in the last two decades is Trump's ridiculous adventure in the gulf.


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adrianNtoday at 6:20 PM

I would argue that subsidized solar panels and batteries from China are the the most important factor. If renewables weren’t economically competitive we’d see approximately zero deployment.

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bruce511today at 6:43 PM

Yes I came to say the same thing. It's a truism that people don't care about supply till it stops.

Interruptions of supply cause people to get antsy. They start looking for alternatives. A drought leads to a surge in well-points and bore holes. Rainwater collection goes up. Electricity outages lead to generators, solar and so on, all easily installed at domestic level.

Food shortages lead to more strategic agriculture choices. Oil shortages start to make EVs more attractive. This is the first major interruption in oil supply since the 70s. I start to think the next car I buy will be electric. I already have solar so it makes sense.

The biggest way to change society is to make the perception that supply is precarious or expensive. Long after the drought ends, the lessons remain.

The leading climate-denier voice , who rails against clean energy, has also caused a world-wide understanding of how precarious our oil supply is. That lesson will stick, regardless of your politics.

PaulHouletoday at 6:54 PM

I dunno. The curve of solar adoption has looked "great" since 2000. There are lots of troubles remaining like:

- storage over the 24 hour cycle - storage over yearly cycles - how to fix nitrogen for agriculture - how to make carbon-free metals - how to run the chemical industry without fossil fuels

The good news has been the expansion of solar through markets, the diffusion of innovation, competition, and something like Moore's Law. The bad news is we are reaching the saturation point for the grid being able to absorb solar energy in many places and that's going to stop the growth unless those bottlenecks are overcome.

mrweaseltoday at 7:06 PM

Partially the Ukraine war got at least parts of Europe started, then adding Trumps mess on top but keeps the ball rolling.

I've heard a lot of people being critical of wind turbines, calling them ugly and wanting nothing to do with them. After the Ukraine war started I remember driving into town, seeing the five massive wind turbines at the harbour, providing three time the power the city needs, and thinking "not only do they look great, they're also part of our self sufficiency".

The US is a different place, but the hate parts of the US have towards renewable energy is pretty insane. I know the wind isn't always blow, the sun not always shining, but each installation is still one step closer to not being beholden to the whims of some crazy person in a far of land.

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baggy_troughtoday at 6:15 PM

Yes, obviously this gas price spike is what climate change activists wanted all along, only not nearly as much as they'd like.