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Waterluviantoday at 3:15 PM7 repliesview on HN

I won't pretend I grok the underlying spirit of Burning Man. But I find it deeply fascinating to see the interaction between desires for counterculture, anarchy, free spirit, etc. and the benefit and ultimate necessity of organization, planning, rules... governance, essentially. And where there's those things, there's always maps and data.


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throwup238today at 3:30 PM

It’s fun to read everyone's preconceptions about Burning Man. Its ten principles are published [1] and include stuff like “radical inclusion” and “civic responsibility” and “gifting” (the latter of which is taken very literally, there is almost no currency use on the playa and everything is gifted except ice and coffee at center camp).

Those principles tend to attract the kind of people associated with counterculture and anarchists, but it’s hardly representative, especially when you include the family zone and all the specialized camps.

[1] https://burningman.org/about-us/10-principles/

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eliftoday at 3:54 PM

Trashing the planet is mainstream. Taking care of it is counterculture.

quuxtoday at 3:26 PM

The natural tension between chaos and order is one of the things that makes Burning Man so interesting.

foolfoolztoday at 3:45 PM

there’s an interesting side to this that better cell coverage, starlink, and others have made burning man more phone friendly. purists will say don’t bring a phone. or the event only works because no one has phones that work

but the event isn’t possible to run without internet. DPW has wifi at every station. internet has become a core planning and organization tool

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dizhntoday at 3:35 PM

It's actually pretty compatible with "capital a" Anarchy.

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Jarwaintoday at 3:26 PM

Honestly, that contrast is what draws me in. In the same way ultralight hiking forces you to think about and let go of extraneous weight, going to Burning Man and doing the whole camp thing and seeing the city work showcases the "dead weight" of "making things happen".

nathan_comptontoday at 3:36 PM

People think of anarchism as against organizations and rules, but its just against hierarchy. Western people in particular are so used to hierarchical thinking that its difficult to even imagine an organization that isn't hierarchical in nature.

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