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xingpedtoday at 2:02 AM5 repliesview on HN

TBH this is a pretty good way of looking at it. Yeah we're seeing an explosion of vulnerabilities being found right now, but that (hopefully) means those vulnerabilities are all being cleaned up and we're entering a more hardened era of software. Minus the software packages that are being intentionally put out as exploits, of course. Maybe some might say it's too optimistic and naive, but I think you have a good point.


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michaelchisaritoday at 3:28 AM

I agree with the prediction but not the timing. We won't enter a more hardened era of software until after a long period of security vulnerabilities.

Rivers caught on fire for a hundred years before the EPA was formed.

FrinkleFrankletoday at 2:28 AM

New code will also use these tools from the get go, hopefully vastly reducing the vulnerabilities that make it to prod to begin with.

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akoboldfryingtoday at 3:15 AM

> we're entering a more hardened era of software

This is one force that operates. Another is that, in an effort to avoid depending on such a big attack surface, people are increasingly rolling their own code (with or without AI help) where they might previously have turned to an open source library.

I think the effect will generally be an increase in vulnerabilities, since the hand-rolled code hasn't had the same amount of time soaking in the real world as the equivalent OS library; there's no reason to assume the average author would magically create fewer bugs than the original OS library authors initially did. But the vulnerabilities will have much narrower scope: If you successfully exploit an OS library, you can hack a large fraction of all the code that uses it, while if you successfully exploit FooCorp's hand-rolled implementation, you can only hack FooCorp. This changes the economic incentive of funding vulnerabilities to exploit -- though less now than in the past, when you couldn't just point an LLM at your target and tell it "plz hack".

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anankaietoday at 2:05 AM

To be fair, to some extent that’s up to us. Time to get cleaning, I guess.

laroditoday at 6:05 AM

You are avoiding intentionally to say ‘thanks to LLMs’ or is implicit? As all these recent mega bugs surface with lots of fuzzing and agentic bashing, right ?

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