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vel0cityyesterday at 5:36 PM6 repliesview on HN

It cracks me up when people say Chrome is a monopoly, because a massive amount of computing devices do not even ship with Chrome. Windows computers, Macbooks, and iPhones require users go search out and install Chrome on their own out of their own volition, shipping with entirely functional and decent browsers out of the box that they have lots of patterns to push. Even many Android phones ship with browsers other than Chrome as a default still from what I understand.

How is Chrome, of all things, a monopoly? Have words just entirely lost all meaning and now monopoly just means "things which are popular that I dislike"?


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MSFT_Edgingyesterday at 5:50 PM

Chrome is a monopoly by extending the internet in ways that force users into chrome. Due to market share and Google's prevalence, they have the sway to introduce things that cannot meaningfully be avoided without extreme siloing.

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Dylan16807yesterday at 6:45 PM

Why do you keep talking about who installs the app? That has nothing to do with whether something is a monopoly, which is primarily about market share.

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dns_snekyesterday at 8:00 PM

What's the point of this pedantry? Replace "monopoly" with "dominant market player" and their point still stands. A company doesn't need to be a literal monopoly to engage in anti-competitive behavior. The EU would call this "abuse of dominance". [1]

>> Google holds absolute authority on how websites are rendered and if websites can be found.

This is still 100% correct. Google owns the dominant browser and the dominant search engine, this means that they get to dictate how websites function and pick winners and losers through their search algorithm. If you're a publisher (i.e. anyone who hosts a website) you're forced to fall in line or go out of business.

[1] https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2021-05...

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wil421yesterday at 5:47 PM

I’m constantly badgered by google apps on my iPhone to use Chrome. In fact I’m not able to just click a link and open my default browser, I have to see the big chrome logo and a smaller link to choose my default browser.

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traderj0eyesterday at 5:50 PM

and even the iPhone Chrome doesn't use the Chromium engine, it's Safari under the hood

ranger_dangeryesterday at 6:32 PM

> Windows computers

Ship with a chromium fork called Edge

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