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laweijfmvotoday at 12:14 AM4 repliesview on HN

yet i still can’t use basic autopilot on the highway because it phantom brakes every 2 hours


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aetherspawntoday at 12:48 AM

Autopilot (no longer for sale) is so unsafe I’m surprised there’s no class action for owners to force Tesla to upgrade it to FSD for free.

Especially in right hand drive markets (non US) it’s even worse than Toyota’s radar cruise.

I’ve nearly been killed by it about 5 times because it randomly steers into fences and things. It also randomly fails to change lanes (1 in 100), and then just randomly steers full lock and goes out of control.

Model 3 - Highland

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radial_symmetrytoday at 12:21 AM

Are you on an extremely old version or something? I have had my model Y for 5 years and it only phantom braked once ever.

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amaranttoday at 2:49 AM

Really? That's weird, I owned a Tesla in Sweden for 2 years and had perhaps 3 ghost break events total. I used autopilot(not fsd) a lot.

ajrosstoday at 12:35 AM

So, that's not my experience with current FSD versions. But whatever, sure. Let's accept your data point as measured:

Every... TWO HOURS?! I mean, come on. Put a camera on yourself or another human driver. There's an unexpected braking event at least that often, almost always in a more dangerous situation. The human failure tends to be failing to detect a real obstacle, vs. slowing for a phantom one.

This is just too much. If you don't like it don't use it. But to pretend that stomps-the-brakes-every-few-hours is a stop ship kind of safety bug is quite frankly ridiculous.

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