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Getting arrested in Japan

138 pointsby baneyesterday at 9:56 PM141 commentsview on HN

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metacritic12yesterday at 11:02 PM

Seems like it's not pleasant, and the author says in theory it could be as low of a bar as getting into a heated argument; but the author never discloses his actual charge, which I think is critical context.

If he stabbed someone and got this treatment, it would be very different than if he had a loud but normal argument you might see in any big box store in the US.

That he doesn't go on to protest why he got locked up makes me think it was something more serious.

Some time ago (can't easily find it anymore) there was a expose on UK prisons, which was interesting without even knowing what crime the prisoner was convicted of, but turns out it was abuse of a relative.

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AngryDatatoday at 1:25 AM

This guy has a way rosier view of the US justice system than either I or anybody I know who has been arrested or sent to jail has.

ProjectVaderyesterday at 11:19 PM

For those interested, here is the YouTube channel of the author. She has several videos about her experience. I used to watch her channel, and after reading this article (although she never mentions her name), I clicked through a few more of her posts, and saw her photo and immediately recognized the name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=175yRhSaNfU

metalcrowyesterday at 10:58 PM

This sounds bad enough that it makes me wonder what the punishment for breaking the rules in jail is. If you can't sleep in a certain direction, what are they going to do if you refuse to obey? Or even can't obey because you don't speak Japanese?

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aftbittoday at 12:22 AM

Absolutely horrifying. I've come to believe that criminal punishment is simply unethical. I wish someone would come up with a better option.

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zuluxyesterday at 11:39 PM

Pro Tip: When visiting Japan, dress and comport yourself so you don't look like you should be thrown in jail, and it will happen a lot less often.

As a Mexican friend puts it for Mexico: Dress as the police should believe you.

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DarkmSparksyesterday at 11:23 PM

Whole new level of respect for the Yakuza, no wonder they end up running everything there.

ktallettyesterday at 11:01 PM

There is nothing about Japan that suggests otherwise. One example being whether you agree with capital punishment or not, their method of never giving you advance notice is torture, for both the prisoner and their family.

commandersakiyesterday at 11:01 PM

Something as small as getting into a heated argument in public, accidentally taking an item you didn’t pay for, overstaying a visa, or even grabbing someone else’s umbrella or bike thinking it was yours can escalate further than you could imagine and have you arrested before you’ve even had a chance to explain.

Is this actually true or just fearmongering? I mean really, no chance to explain? Sounds as dumb as being forced into a psychiatric ward for wearing a pink shirt.

g-b-rtoday at 12:15 AM

I mostly love Japan, but this is it, I can't risk something like this.

The conviction rate was already terrifying, but this probably nails the coffin.

And this in a country where the yakuza is a sanctioned part of the society?

bouncycastletoday at 12:50 AM

another thing in Japan is that you can get arrested for self defence. Say if someone starts attacking you on the street, and eg. you punch back causing an injury, when you could have simply ran away and escaped, then you can get arrested and held for 23 days as a suspect.

So say if someone shoves you on a subway in Tokyo, do not ever shove back or do anything worse. Move away, get witnesses / evidence if you can, then report.

Oh, and other things that can get you arrested:

- Not promptly returning someone's lost property such as a wallet

- A review about a business that damaged their reputation, even if it was true (but you don't have 100% evidence). eg. "I got food poisoning from here"

oh, and maybe not arrested, but get in trouble for: if you place your household rubbish into not your designated collection point, even though the point is the closest to your home. (Also don't get me started on the topic of sorting trash...)

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HPMORyesterday at 10:56 PM

Holy shit this is horrible. It really shows the true cost of having a disciplined public society. People love to hate on SF, and the homelessness. But I think it’s a society that prioritizes individual freedom which allows for both this outcome and the entrepreneurial environment we see.

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wizzwizz4yesterday at 11:22 PM

The picture in section "THE CELL" does not match the description.

OutOfHeretoday at 12:08 AM

Wear a body camera while in public, one that is always recording. It won't save you from absurd prescription drug charges though.

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dnnddidiejyesterday at 11:24 PM

Tl;dr: you are in effectively the hole (but stricter) for anything between 1 day and months, without charges. It is torture. As in actual torture.

Fact check... anyone can confirm this treatment is standard in Japan?

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