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idle_zealottoday at 3:29 AM1 replyview on HN

> Literally the central trigger point of the story

The fact that you and other insist on this really gets at the crux of this whole problem. There are two notable positions on criminality and punishment: yours, which is broadly that the justice system exists, at least in part, to deliver righteous punishment on the deserving, and the position of those appalled by the treatment here, which is that the purpose of the justice system is primarily to protect people, and then to deliver predictable, proportionate punishment of those found guilty to disincentivize criminal behavior. If you think that torture of someone detained but not found guilty might be justifiable if they're accused of a sufficiently heinous crime then you have an illiberal position that can and will be used to enable abuse of the criminal justice system to inflict extralegal punishment on anyone for any reason.


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reddozentoday at 5:13 AM

You can agree her actions are to deceive right? She is intentionally obfuscating the central claim of her story in an attempt to deceive the readers. You wouldn't make a 30 minute video and become intentionally vague about the STRONGEST part of your argument, the central claim, unless you're lying to the audience to trigger an empathetic response.