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gioboxyesterday at 10:01 PM5 repliesview on HN

> they don't have a used by date

For quite a lot of use cases, the current systems arguably do get worse over time if not continually updated. The knowledge cutoff date will start to hurt more and more as the weights age in a hypothetical scenario where you are stuck with them forever.

Coding, one of the most popular usescases today, would not be great if it say only understood java to a version from years ago etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_cutoff


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throwyawayyyyyesterday at 10:35 PM

One solution is not to advance anything of course. I'm not even joking, is there going to be a successor to React? I suspect not, with the vast amount of training data for React now, it's going to look silly to move to something else with less support. What is the last new popular programming language, rust? Will there be another one? I suspect not. Same reasoning. The irony of all this AI acceleration talk is it'll work best if we don't accelerate the underlying tech at all.

tcp_handshakeryesterday at 10:28 PM

You could learn how to code...a whole generation did it before...

rrvshyesterday at 10:26 PM

Nobody is unaware of the knowledge cutoff, and sharing the Wikipedia article is not helping anyone. Your point is easily rebutted by taking whatever open weights/source model has an outdated cutoff and training or fine tuning it on more data, which is again always going to be viable given a modicum of compute

nullcyesterday at 11:46 PM

Small models are more useful for "doing stuff" than "knowing stuff" to begin with. Add in an agentic harness and a small model can happily read more current information on demand (including from e.g. a local wikipedia snapshot).

mrtesthahyesterday at 11:55 PM

>Coding, one of the most popular uses cases today, would not be great if it say only understood java to a version from years ago etc.

This LLM trained only and entirely on pre-1930s texts was able to code Python programs when given only a short example:

https://talkie-lm.com/introducing-talkie