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gwbas1cyesterday at 10:07 PM2 repliesview on HN

No, my wife works at a hospital.

The story is that a cop dragged a suspect into the hospital and demanded that a nurse give the patient a blood test, which is extremely illegal. The cop arrested her, but she was 100% in the right and the judge released her the next day.


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mindslighttoday at 12:12 AM

No, what? Where is your argument that is meant to refute what I said? Your wife works at a hospital where a nurse was put into a similar situation, she refused, suffered personal consequences, and (presumably) the would be "patient" wasn't harmed. Sure, that nurse deserves hearty applause! If her coworkers and management supported her, they deserve applause too!

But none of that speaks to this other situation where a different nurse joined in the sadism of the cops (or at the very least was cowed into submission worrying about personal consequences), and then after a person was harmed, all of the responsible institutions have thrown up their hands and said "yup, looks good!". There's no guarantee that the laws as written support justice, and quite often it turns out that they do not. But you seem to be clinging to that idea.

mothballedyesterday at 11:31 PM

I filed a nursing board complaint against the nurse, they argued that the (privately employed) nurse functions as a police for the purpose of a search therefore if they act without a warrant it's not a nursing matter but rather a police matter. I could argue it was an illegal search, but not to the nursing board, they weren't willing to consider whether the search was illegal or not, only that since the government directed the search that she wasn't acting within the capacity of her nursing license but rather in an LEO capacity. My complaint against her license was summarily closed since in their eyes whether a warrant existed was immaterial.

I also complained to the board the nurse cursed at me and called me a criminal (because I refused the 'care' that they provided anyway), but I suppose that's covered by 1A and you can verbally abuse an innocent patient all you like without any risk to your license. I don't disagree with that part of their conclusion, being an asshole isn't illegal, but it's worth noting that nursing license apparently doesn't cover verbal forms of misconduct.

So realistically although there are a few brave nurses, I would expect instead at least in my state (AZ) the nursing board will run cover for them while they perform the illegal search and then they won't have to worry about the police arresting them for non-compliance either. When I checked that same nurses license, she also had been in trouble for stealing and child neglect, that also apparently is no problem in Arizona...