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PradeetPatelyesterday at 10:43 PM12 repliesview on HN

There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength.

Does anyone know what caused this?


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gsinclairyesterday at 10:49 PM

I think you need to make a case for DEI being “one of the industry’s greatest strengths”. It’s not obvious to me.

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walrus01yesterday at 10:46 PM

United States domestic "politics" and just about everything adjacent to a certain well known public figure..

spaqintoday at 3:00 AM

I think the industry's greatest strength is actually outsourcing bulk of the work to culturally homogeneous, cheaper labor countries of Eastern Europe and South [East] Asia.

mnstoday at 7:40 AM

Yes, MONEY. Companies and their management couldn't care less about DEI, they care about pleasing whoever in in power in order to get benefits and make as much money as they can. You could literally have Hitler in power now and you would see what companies would do for their survival.

xdennistoday at 12:04 AM

> There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength.

Okay, I'll bite. Why is it a strength, and why is it the greatest strength?

All people are equal, so it shouldn't matter if you have an all Asian team, an all black team, or any mix of all races.

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croteyesterday at 10:53 PM

Big Tech CEOs having a front-row seat at Trump's 47 inauguration should give you a decent hint: they bribed the right people, so now they get to enjoy the kickbacks. There's no risk of being regulated to death right now, so there's no need to pretend having the same values the Democrats pretend to have.

Corporate DEI was never real. There's no "push against" it, simply because there was never a genuine push for it. Large companies don't have moral values - if they did their CEOs wouldn't be billionaires.

greenchairyesterday at 11:22 PM

industry's greatest strength? where did that idea come from? hiring a bunch of didnt earn its based on race or sex? would you want your brain surgeon to be dei or do you want someone who is really good at the job?

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SilverElfinyesterday at 10:59 PM

Most DEI programs at big companies ended up setting goals based on things like race and sex. Zealots in HR departments then started implementing programs to change hiring and promotion and compensation to implement progressive identity politics at work, under the DEI label. These things happened in secret, because the companies didn’t like to highlight how being the wrong race or sex means your career is worse off.

That’s totally illegal and discriminatory but companies were not facing consequences for it under the Biden administration. The constant injection of DEI politics all over society - at work, in movies, in ads, etc - led to a backlash and personally I think it is one of the things that led to someone like Trump being re-elected. And this administration is very against DEI ideology. That’s one reason corporations quickly abandoned it - they didn’t want to face legal scrutiny now.

Another is that DEI culture produced no positive results, as expected. Companies already had incentives to hire the best employees they can. If you change that with other incentives thrown in, it’ll make things worse. And ten years after DEI began to appear everywhere, it was obvious it produced no benefit at best, and led to worse teams at worst.

Another reason is simply that a lot of the activists pushing this type of ideology grew out of the activist age group. And I think many of them likely don’t hold those beliefs as strongly anymore. But either way, younger people are different. Especially young males who are more conservative.

All of that and other things has led to DEI being removed or at least de emphasized.

MayCXCyesterday at 10:46 PM

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