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ssgodderidgetoday at 1:05 AM2 repliesview on HN

Hey OP, would love to know more about your thoughts on Garmin you reference at the bottom? Why would they be any better/worse than Coros?

> *= I do not like Garmin, I think they're a fraudulent company systematically breaching consumer rights and I'm looking for alternatives. Already converted multiple people to Coros.


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lloekitoday at 8:26 AM

Came to see if someone commented on that. I have generally seen Garmin as one of the good ones on several criteria:

- when hit by ransomware, disclosed publicly, bit on the data loss and told them to fsck off

- devices can very much operate without any account, app, or cloud connection (of course you don't get the more advanced "Connect" features)

- plug it in and you have rw access to .FIT files over MTP

- same mechanism to build and sideload apps made with Monkey C

- ANT+ is a fairly open ecosystem (progressively replaced by BLE, often in much less open ways)

I hear that some people are annoyed that devices stop receiving major feature updates after a year or two, and see that as predatory "you must upgrade every year", which is like, ridiculous?

Also in a sense I like that I buy the device and it's mostly "done". Like a mechanical watch it's a utility item I can rely on and it won't ever have a Liquid Ass pulled up on me.

deckplecksettertoday at 3:33 AM

I'm curious about this too. This is the first time I've heard of Garmin being a bad company.