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As researchers age, they produce less disruptive work

65 pointsby Brajeshwaryesterday at 5:16 PM61 commentsview on HN

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hackthemackyesterday at 9:31 PM

I prefer the full quote by Douglas Adams.

I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:

1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.

2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.

3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.

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Animatsyesterday at 9:22 PM

Einstein spent his later career trying to reconcile general relativity and quantum mechanics. He failed. So has everyone after him. It's not about Einstein being old. It's that it's a really hard problem.

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analog31yesterday at 10:20 PM

>>> It was the Nobel laureate and quantum physicist Max Planck who wrote that “science advances one funeral at a time” (which is actually a somewhat artful translation of his original statement, in German) about revered gatekeepers and their nostalgia for insights past that keep leaps in scientific understanding from happening. Turns out, he may have been right.

Or he may have been wrong. I think it was Paul Feyerabend who showed that most paradigms (yes, including that one) of how science works are falsified by counterexamples in scientific history and practice.

We love to make a discovery seem like a triumph against evil and obstruction, and sometimes it happens, but sometimes it's just a discovery.

Disclosure: Old scientist.

grebcyesterday at 10:10 PM

They hit the nail on the head in the first paragraph.

Older people have influence, power, control to direct where resources are allocated.

No 25yo scientists has the werewithal or experience to challenge that until later in life.

It’s kind of like asking why old people have all the assets.

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ordutoday at 12:08 AM

> Even the greatest minds, such as Einstein, transitioned from disruptor to gatekeeper when quantum mechanics threatened his nostalgic view of the universe

Just watch Veritasium[1] take on this claim. Eistein claimed that QM in Copenhagen interpretation is non-local. Bohr claimed he proved Einstein wrong. And then came Bell and ruled out local hidden variables, proving the QM is non-local, at least in Copenhagen interpretation. Pity neither Einstein nor Bohr lived to that moment, so we can't know what they would say on that.

But in any case Einstein was right all the time.

[1] https://youtu.be/NIk_0AW5hFU

scarecrowbobyesterday at 9:48 PM

I found Thomas Kuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" helpful on this topic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Re...

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kulahanyesterday at 9:27 PM

Author must not have heard of Nobel Disease - many laureates go on to propose absolutely batshit insane theories. Sounds disruptive to me…

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moominyesterday at 10:11 PM

I desperately want to slap a huge “citation needed” on that first paragraph.

ktallettyesterday at 9:36 PM

Disruptive work nowadays is not very popular with institutions and doesn't win you grants. What does win grants is plodding along on a same path usually towards some end goal that is the latest buzzword. Those who stay in academia all start aspirational and wish to change the world, but the system sucks it out of them.

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