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AlotOfReadingtoday at 5:42 PM4 repliesview on HN

I'm not sure that attacker reputation is particularly meaningful. The group can rebrand into a new identity at any time. They're anonymous cybercriminals after all and there are lots of reasons they might need to do that beyond reputation laundering.

The calculus for the victims doesn't seem to change much whether the same people are using a "new" name or an old one to hold their systems hostage.


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applfanboysbgontoday at 6:06 PM

> I'm not sure that attacker reputation is particularly meaningful. The group can rebrand into a new identity at any time. They're anonymous cybercriminals after all and there are lots of reasons they might need to do that beyond reputation laundering.

It is very meaningful. You seem to equate that "new" = "trust by default", but a new group is distrusted by default. Let's say that for a new group which is unproven to hold up their end of the deal, only 5% of victims will pay the ransom. But if you've built up a reputation over 5 years of honoring your ransoms, then maybe 50% of your victims will pay the ransom. Reputation is literally everything here. I doubt Instructure would have paid such a high-profile ransom if they didn't have a strong reason to believe it would work.

Freak_NLtoday at 6:01 PM

The name ShinyHunters is currently quite well-known due to a number of high-profile hacks (Odido in the Netherlands this year was huge). Their brand has a significant value right now.

onemoresooptoday at 5:46 PM

Yeah but fewer ransomes would be paid out regardless of who is attacking. They could be spoiling their own market and am sure they would

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essephtoday at 6:19 PM

> I'm not sure that attacker reputation is particularly meaningful. The group can rebrand into a new identity at any time.

Reputation is everything in a collective.