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mettamagetoday at 1:30 PM2 repliesview on HN

See my comment. My hypothesis is: ignorance and apathy that results in incompetence.

Using GA4 is just the normal thing right?

Look in a room full of marketing experts and they will say yes or shrug.

Look in a room full of tech people and you'll see all security experts and security adjacent people screaming HELL NO or simply giving a nuanced answer that ultimately comes down to "no". Some will do funny little dances, some probably even just praying to a sun or rain god because they just lost it at that comment. I know I would.

To answer: no GA4 is not just the normal thing. There is no normal. It's the dominant thing and it invades privacy like hell and the whole thing needs to be thought about in a different way. I'd advice almost everyone to stop smoking that Google crack pipe and roll your own or find an analytics friendly vendor.

Yea I got a bit rhetorical there, apologies for being a bit fed up with this situation.


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Imustaskforhelptoday at 1:41 PM

Yes, my comment was published just one minute after yours so I only saw your comment after mine and I appreciated reading your comment (& upvoted it)

> Look in a room full of tech people and you'll see all security experts and security adjacent people screaming HELL NO or simply giving a nuanced answer that ultimately comes down to "no". Some will do funny little dances, some probably even just praying to a sun or rain god because they just lost it at that comment. I know I would.

But if that's the case, are we saying that when the website was being created, it was being created with no-one who was security expert or let alone security adjacent people?

This is what I had refused to believe because in my opinion, more due diligence within the structure should've taken place and if there was no-one competent within the team, then why not hire one who is?

I can't help but feel frustrated, this is probably gonna negatively impact people who have talked on such suicide prevention websites.

Literally these websites is to create a safe space and for a person to be heard, if one introduces the concept of tracking or even feeling tracked, I can't help but feel frustrated as to why, why not hire people who know about security especially for such websites and especially with these laws. I am unable to understand this to be more specific.

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embedding-shapetoday at 1:31 PM

> See my comment.

No, I refuse being told what to do.

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