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kibwenyesterday at 8:41 PM5 repliesview on HN

The fish rots from the head. It's a sucker's game to aspire to selflessly serve the greater good when the most powerful people in the land are brazenly corrupt pedophiles. In other words: monkey see, monkey do.


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elmomleyesterday at 8:46 PM

Yes, and: the rot started long ago, this is just what it looks like when it goes unchecked. To quote Mencius:

Mencius went to see King Hui of Liang. The king said, “Venerable sir, since you have not counted it far to come here, may I presume that you are provided with counsels to profit my kingdom?”

Mencius replied, “Why must Your Majesty use that word ‘profit’? What I am provided with are counsels to benevolence and righteousness, and these are my only topics.

If Your Majesty say, ‘What is to be done to profit my kingdom?’ the great officers will say, ‘What is to be done to profit our families?’ and the inferior officers and common people will say, ‘What is to be done to profit our persons?’ Superiors and inferiors will try to snatch this profit one from another, and the kingdom will be endangered.”

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lll-o-lllyesterday at 8:56 PM

> The fish rots from the head.

The old adage that the people elect the governance they deserve; comes to mind. The concepts of Virtue, Honour, Duty, and Justice have been declining in the West over a very long period (this is not a US specific thing). The rotting head reflects the rotting society.

> It's a sucker's game to aspire to selflessly serve the greater good when the most powerful people in the land are brazenly corrupt

You don’t act honourably because that will “get you ahead”. You act honourably because it is right.

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JumpCrisscrossyesterday at 8:41 PM

> fish rots from the head

Does it? Did it? We elected the "brazenly corrupt pedophiles."

This question seems complex and important enough to not be resolved with a truism.

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whyenotyesterday at 9:00 PM

It's a nice saying, but the "head" changes every 4-8 years and this is a problem that has gotten worse over decades. Sometimes the rot doesn't start from the head.

WillPostForFoodyesterday at 8:49 PM

Or it is a dilution of the culture through mass media, social media, and immigration from countries with different values.

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