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duzer65657today at 1:19 AM2 repliesview on HN

Either your dates or experiences are off, because I've been working in software since 1999 and the easiest time to get a job was quite recent, in the back-half of COVID. The early 2000's were decent, but I didn't experience - or know anyone who did - any sort of "free jobs' period. Also pay was relatively decent but much less than what you saw even 5 years ago. It's only the in the past year or so that the world has appeared to be ending for developers, and I think that pronouncement is premature.


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edoceotoday at 2:18 AM

Annecdata: 1996-1999 was super easy, one round start next Monday. 2000-2003 difficult. Easy again until 2008. Hard till 2013. No data since then.

What I hear about today seems crazy hard.

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joe_mambatoday at 1:23 AM

>Also pay was relatively decent but much less than what you saw even 5 years ago.

IDK, I'm not from the US/Bay-Area, nor does my country have any big-tech/FANG jobs to distort the market for what constitutes a "high wage" in tech, it's all the same.

>in the back-half of COVID.

Sure, but Covid was only a short blip, a temporary exception, not a baseline norm for wage/job growth, like the years prior which was a longer period of getting a job was easy, like 2012-2020.

For me where I live now, the career depression I saw came in 2023 already when jobs become less abundant and harder to get, and it only got worse later when mass layoff started. So we're already 3 years in the decline, longer than the Covid boom lasted and things aren't going better yet.

I entered the workforce in around 2012-2014 and it was significantly easier to get a callback from sending a resume than it is now where it's mostly automated rejections. When I say "easy" I also mean you didn't need 7 stages of interviews to get a job back then, you'd have 2 stages and those were pretty chill and get a call back from every 2-3 resumes sent. Now you need to send dozens. I guess "easy" is relative.

>Also pay was relatively decent but much less than what you saw even 5 years ago.

Inflation also happened in that time.