logoalt Hacker News

cedwstoday at 11:35 AM4 repliesview on HN

What’s the selling point of ODoH given the low uptake of ECH which means the name of the server you’re talking to is given away anyway?


Replies

jeroenhdtoday at 12:18 PM

It means you can use a decently fast DNS server like Cloudflare without the major privacy problems of using Cloudflare. Or DNS4EU, or any non-ISP DNS server really.

Your ISP snooping on you with SNI logging is something people using normal ISPs don't need to worry about, but feeding all your data into a profit-driven company is.

show 1 reply
elptoday at 12:13 PM

My, admittedly cynical, view of it is that the main selling point is that you share your data with the person running the ODoH server.

The truth is that very very few people run their own recursive nameserver. The entirely reasonable assumption for any authoritative nameserver, like .com, is that the query is being asked on behalf of someone else and knowing that a user of your nameserver asked for the ip of sexysheep.com doesn't give them a lot of useful info.

I'm think many ISPs actually sell a lot of data from their recursive nameservers, but I'm willing to bet that almost no-one bothers to sniff port 53 udp traffic going elsewhere.

My vote for the best privacy option is always going to be just run pi-hole with your own recursive nameservers.

show 3 replies
fc417fc802today at 11:38 AM

I'd think that if you've got several leaks then patching one up is still forward progress even if it doesn't deliver a full fix immediately.

rdmetoday at 11:44 AM

They solve different things. ODoH hides your question, not who you're talking to.

show 1 reply