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rfergietoday at 3:41 PM5 repliesview on HN

> Probably 80% of the recent PhD grads I know are looking to leave academia, despite the fact that they went into it to pursue a career in academia

Has this changed recently?


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divbzerotoday at 4:01 PM

Not that I’m aware of? Most PhD grads not staying academia seems to be a long-running phenomenon. The number of permanent academic positions simply does not match up against the number of PhD grads.

analog31today at 4:23 PM

My dad got his PhD in the 1950s,and went straight to industry. He said it was always this way.

However there have been a couple of long term trends: Switch to gig economy for college teaching, and loss of manufacturing industry. My first job out of grad school was in a factory.

spwa4today at 4:05 PM

Yes, in positivist sciences 20% intending to say would be very high by historical standards.

This paper https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/93208 gives and estimate 87% PhD holders leave before becoming (tenured) faculty. And that's academia-wide. In the sciences more will be leaving. In exact sciences yet again more.

Truth is most people leave before even getting a PhD, so it's even worse (and the advice is to think long and hard before doing a PhD, and certainly starting one because you can't find a job for a few months is sure to result in disappointment)

ameliustoday at 4:26 PM

I suppose the Trump administration didn't improve the situation.