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RandomGerm4ntoday at 5:23 AM1 replyview on HN

In many countries, a VPN provider can be significantly more trustworthy than an ISP. In Germany, for example, you can have your home searched simply for insulting a politician. The ISP will then immediately hand over the data to the authorities, which most VPN providers do not do. The same goes for torrents. If some random law firm sends a letter to Telekom saying, “Hey, your customer downloaded a movie please give us his data,” they’ll do it right away. Mullvad, ProtonVPN, or even dubious VPN providers like NordVPN don’t do that.


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wg0today at 9:53 AM

That's very simplistic assumption. If the German state machinery is determined to get you, ISP and VPN provider have a threshold beyond which they'll give up.

Many many examples out there. "We don't keep logs" is not good enough neither realistic because how else a VPN provider is supposed to protect itself if it doesn't keep a log of what's happening inside and through its own systems.