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bethekidyouwantyesterday at 6:40 PM4 repliesview on HN

What is a recall in this case? Is them getting a software update a recall now?


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superfrankyesterday at 6:48 PM

They suspended service areas they deem high risk until the software update can be applied. So while, yes, it's just a software update, it's a recall in the sense that they've temporarily pulled all the cars off the road in certain areas

Veservyesterday at 8:55 PM

"Recall" is a technical term meaning: "public dangerous defect notice".

A "recall" is stating that the defective version of the product in the field must be "removed/recalled" and replaced/updated with a non-defective version at the manufacturer's expense. It just so happens that the removal and replacement of defective software from the field can occur remotely.

The important part is that the manufacturer delivered a defective product that risks your safety, that fixing that safety defect is the responsibility of the manufacturer, and the system is unsafe until that occurs.

svachalekyesterday at 6:44 PM

I think so. For some kind of legalese reasons that's generally what a Tesla "recall" amounts to these days.

SpicyLemonZestyesterday at 6:52 PM

Yes, this is a common terminology issue. "Recall" is legally defined in terms of the kind of problems that require one, not the solution to those problems, because the relevant regulations were written when there was no way to fix consumer products other than physically delivering them to the manufacturer or an authorized repair person.