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kube-systemyesterday at 9:57 PM6 repliesview on HN

Vehicle regulation in the US is piss poor. Here's the full list of states that require all passenger vehicles to be inspected for safety and emissions every year:

* New York

* Massachussets

* Vermont


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lacewingyesterday at 10:54 PM

I used to live in Massachusetts. I'm not sure it's a benchmark to look up to. If buy a brand new car from a dealer, your next stop must be an inspection station - a pointless waste of time and money. But if your car is older than 15 years? You're no longer required to have an annual emissions test. Pretty backwards.

fc417fc802yesterday at 11:34 PM

Why should that be required? Let people do as they will and impose penalties for problematic behavior (including negligence). I lived in a state with safety inspections and AFAICT it was little more than yet another disproportionate speed bump for the poor and a complete waste of time for society at large.

I do see the merit of inspecting larger trailers (such as for boats) once a year given the combined increased likelihood of incompetence and risk to life when things go wrong. But even then I think it doesn't actually accomplish much in practice. The time and effort would be better spent on targeted public education campaigns, possibly mandatory.

For emissions, again who cares. Regulations imposed on the high volume manufacturers broadly solves all the issues that are easy to solve. The rest are either willful violations or collectors. The latter is technological in nature and inevitably gets grandfathered for both safety and emissions everywhere I've lived.

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kstrausertoday at 1:13 AM

Safety inspections I’ve dealt with were largely regulatory capture for auto shops. Oh, your fender is rusty? Better replace that, even if this is your fishing wagon!

CA doesn’t require annual smogs, but once your car is a certain age, it’s at least biennial. I just did ours last week.

mmh0000yesterday at 11:15 PM

Utah used to require safety inspections every year, but they eliminated them; there were no noticeable side effects [1].

"Safety Inspections" were generally just a grift for third-party repairshops to collect free money and I couldn't be happier that they are no longer a thing.

Be aware that "safety" and "emissions" are different. Emissions testing is still required biannually for newish vehicles and yearly for older ones.

[1] https://www.deseret.com/2017/3/9/20607904/lawmakers-remove-r...

kortillatoday at 4:32 AM

I wouldn’t say it’s piss poor in the entire US just because it is draconian in those 3 states.

pdntspatoday at 12:41 AM

It's probably a much larger list if you expand it to every other year. Though that won't make for nearly as exciting a post.

That reminds me, I am overdue for a smog check...