alt Hacker News> America reversing the move and banning its own citizens ...
You sit there lecturing me on "in theory" discussions and you come up with that line.
I think you will find many European countries would celebrate yanks being told they can't visit Europe. Nobody will miss the loud Karens who make no effort in relation to the local culture.
It might have escaped your notice but the present US administration has not exactly done much to encourage Europeans to welcome yanks what with threatening to invade a European country and all that.
Get your own house in order before lecturing others.
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> It might have escaped your notice but the present US administration has not exactly done much to encourage Europeans
That's because the right wing faction hates Europe. :(
> You sit there lecturing me on "in theory" discussions and you come up with that line
“In theory” requires it work in theory. I’m pointing out that your proposed “retaliation,” banning American tourists from Europe, hurts Europe more than it does America to the point that it would be a potential (albeit over the top) tactic the U.S. would itself deploy.
> the present US administration has not exactly done much to encourage Europeans to welcome yank
Correct. I agree with the notion of European sovereignty. I’m saying “sovereign cloud” BS is performative nonsense. So long as Europe is dependent on American F-35 parts, LNG and banking rails, Washington has a de facto veto on European policy.
Like, what policy position could Europe take with a sovereign cloud but with the above dependencies that it can’t take today? I’m not thinking of anything. In contrast: if Europe decoupled from American LNG, what geopolitical options open up?
> Get your own house in order before lecturing others
I vote in America and Switzerland. I’m talking about my own houses.