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microtonaltoday at 2:24 PM3 repliesview on HN

As opposed to iOS, which does iCloud backups that are not E2E encrypted by default, so that law enforcement can request your chats (except Signal because they opt out), browser history, etc.?

You can enable ADP for E2E encrypted backups, but it's probable not going to help you much, because the people you are communicating with likely didn't.

This is not to defend Microsoft, more to say that all these companies were part of PRISM.


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grueztoday at 2:45 PM

>You can enable ADP for E2E encrypted backups, but it's probable not going to help you much, because the people you are communicating with likely didn't.

That just sounds like a fundamental issue with security in general, not specific to Apple/Microsoft.

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seaniebtoday at 2:34 PM

> This is not to defend Microsoft

But you are defending MS, conflating a bunch of things, mainly full disk encryption and cloud backups.

There's a big difference between Apples cloud backup which has documented behavior and a backdoor. I'm also fairly confidant in Apple's full disk encryption, they've gone to court to defend it. There also a lot more data points we can use to judge Apple vs Microsoft on privacy and security, and MS comes out looking bad.

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