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dangusyesterday at 8:33 PM1 replyview on HN

In the context of the alternative which was “nobody really smokes or vapes” it’s not really a good outcome.

Sure, smoking rates cratered. It was great. But now vaping rates have gone up and it just didn’t have to happen that way at all.

Go back a few years and less people vaped with similarly low smoking rates. Vaping didn’t replace smoking, its net new usage.


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JuniperMesosyesterday at 10:22 PM

I'm not sure this is actually bad. Nicotine, when divorced from the tar of burning cigarettes, has a number of desirable affects on alertness and appetite (as well as less desirable effects like increasing blood pressure) - it's not clear to me that avoiding nicotine as a stimulant is always desirable.

As well, vaping is so much less obnoxious to the people around you than traditional smoking (either tobacco or marijuana). I'm in favor of a lot of the social and legal pressure that has been put on smoking tobacco in public (and I think it should apply to weed as well despite being pro-legalization). But most of the actual issues go away if it's vaping and of smoking (and all of them go away if you're getting your tobacco via a pouch).

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