alt Hacker News> there aren't any coherent organisations that claim to be Zionist
That you have to put up straw men sort of proves my point.
Yes, there are coherent Zionist organisations (including political parties and lobbying groups). Some (perhaps many, hell, maybe even most) of these are fascist and ethno-religious supremacist. We can make meaningful statements about them because, as you said, they're "coherent organisations that claim to be Zionist".
Trying to expand that to "Zionists" in general isn't meaningful unless you're constructing a totem to pillory.
Where's the straw man?
I wonder what the underlying ideology of Zionism is that makes these Zionist organisations all act in the same way, for the same cause.
It seems you don't know what Zionism is, or just purposely deflecting because you do know what it is, but carrying out Hasbara here.