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Anna's Archive Hit with $19.5M Default Judgment and Global Domain Takedown Order

142 pointsby iamnotheretoday at 12:30 PM98 commentsview on HN

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jonhohletoday at 3:18 PM

Not going to claim anything regarding Anna’s Archive’s legitimacy, but what do libraries look like in the future? We’re just going to give up and say, first sale was great while we had it, but digital makes it obsolete? When you die, screw donating your collection of “licenses” to somewhere productive; those contracts died with you? Everything is streaming, so you never purchased anything anyway?

It’s crazy to me that two decades after the iTunes Store the trade and resale of digital goods isn’t protected by law.

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rvnxtoday at 2:42 PM

Why LLM companies that depended on Anna's archive end up so clean ? Looks like Anna's archive was doing the dirty work, and the LLM companies were reaping the profits (and ironically still do, as they hold the largest databases of pirated content in the world).

Is it because the law doesn't apply to you when you have 1B USD ?

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Cider9986today at 3:17 PM

Here[1] is Anna's guide of how to run a shadow library. Opsec and networking, I found it interesting.

[1] https://software.annas-archive.gl/AnnaArchivist/annas-archiv...

rendxtoday at 2:08 PM

The moment I saw their Spotify announcement I expected it to go bad. And they didn't even release anything from it other than metadata!

(I understand this case is about their books, but I feel it got a lot more heat due to the Spotify action.)

Please, dear Anna, don't disappear on us. We need you for the books! Plenty of sources for music around.

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malfisttoday at 12:51 PM

Since when does a judge in NY get to tell Greenland they can't have their registrar sell to Anna's Archive?

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thepaschtoday at 2:23 PM

If only the American justice system displayed a fraction of this same raging fervor when it came to crimes that actually caused harm to someone.

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randomtoasttoday at 12:57 PM

They 100 percent sit in Russia, which will 100 percent ignore this, even if their identity gets uncovered. So it's perfectly safe to continue for the operators.

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beej71today at 2:09 PM

It's one of those interesting moments where the global humanitarian good is in conflict with the law.

b3lvederetoday at 1:14 PM

A digital Fahrenheit 451 burns a lot less bright it seems.

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bix6today at 12:57 PM

Wikipedia is US based so does this mean they’ll stop sharing the URLs on there?

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laichzeit0today at 12:54 PM

So what stops them from just changing it to NotAnna's Archive and operating under that domain?

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ramon156today at 1:00 PM

Next week American ISP's will block Annas-archive, people use VPN's, they get confused. The cycle goes on

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drob518today at 1:44 PM

This is pirate radio all over again.

damnitbuildstoday at 2:38 PM

Given they already have a $322 million judgment and takedown order, they only need to worry 6% more.

Until copyright terms are fair, ~5 years not ~95 years, Pirate On !

josefritzisheretoday at 12:56 PM

AI companies can download books but people can't? Is that right?

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bubblegumcrisistoday at 1:09 PM

This is just another move in a game played by the tech overlords.

It has never been so obvious as now, that justice is not blind. Without justice there is anarchy.

And at this point, to be honest, I say bring it on- let's have the day of retribution before the billionaires have their AI robot armies.

iluvcommunismtoday at 1:30 PM

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gothicbluebirdtoday at 1:15 PM

Anna's archive is a professional nonprofit business with donation tiers for terabyte bundles of stuff for greedy hoarders and llm trainers. Their style suggests they have other goals than freedom of information and reminds of the super rich wikimedia foundation always campaigning for more money.

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