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globular-toasttoday at 2:04 PM1 replyview on HN

I understood after I watched the brilliant Weber Auto video on it, published 5 years ago[0]. I liked it so much I "gently" encouraged my partner to get a Yaris hybrid, which gets about 69mpg average. It's not unusual to see 80+ on individual trips. She was a little sceptical about having an auto at first, because us Europeans still think it's 1980 and that manuals are superior, but she came around after a few minutes of driving.

To be fair, though, classic "slushbox" autos actually were/are garbage, as are chain actuated CVTs. The hybrid system gets you immediate acceleration like an electric, none of this awful lag you get with a slushbox.

It's hilarious to me that 34mpg is considered remarkably good, though. I know it's a "minivan" but my Golf GTI gets 42mpg and is actually fun and arguably cool. I can also fit 5 people, furniture, and 2.4m lengths of timber in it comfortably.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM


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kube-systemtoday at 2:18 PM

The Sienna is considerably larger than a Golf. It seats 7 or 8 depending on configuration.

Also remember we use different 20% smaller gallons than you do in Europe. 34 miles per US gallon is about 41 miles per imperial gallon.

https://www.carsized.com/en-us/cars/compare/volkswagen-golf-...

In the same US tests with US spec vehicles, the Sienna actually achieves considerably better fuel economy. Quite impressive given the size difference:

https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=49303&id=5...