alt Hacker NewsYou are asking the wrong question. It's not about if you can do X which can be faked especially if you are given practically infinite tries and all failures are hidden.
The people who want to believe they actually reason just ignore all obvious evidence of contrary and cherry pick the times reasoning was faked well enough.
The people who don't want to believe will just take a second to understand how they work and then come up with ways to reveal they were faking all along. Like asking how many letters there are in a word lol.
It's only the people who don't want to believe that count because reality is what happens despite of what you believe.
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You seem to believe that something is only "reasoning" if it works in a particular way. That it's not enough for it to observationally display reasoning skills; it has to be using a particular method to do that so it's not "faking" it. Is that correct?
It will be interesting to see the excuses people come up with when LLMs innevitably start solving millenium prize problems.