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xnxtoday at 5:01 PM4 repliesview on HN

I wonder how much of this is trouble perceiving water depth vs integrating that understanding into the larger driver model without creating regressions elsewhere.


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thewebguydtoday at 5:20 PM

I don't think there's a good solution right now. You can't just go based on surrounding traffic because humans are also stupid and flood their cars all the time.

You could maybe use short-wave infrared cameras combined with ground penetrating radar, but it'll get real expensive so probably not commercially viable.

I think the only "good" solution is to have the car be overly paranoid, and if it detects water on the roadway that's bigger than some arbitrary diameter (to rule out mud puddles), then the car has to assume its a flood, stop, and escalate to a human or change the route.

Alternatively, just don't run Waymo operations during flood/flash flood warnings. Maybe we as a society need to top forcing everything to still operate normally during natural disasters. It's OK to shut things down when safety calls for it, and that applies to human drivers too. If areas are flooding, stay home.

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ludicrousdisplatoday at 5:29 PM

In many situations, the depth of the water doesn't matter as driving into it will likely result in death.

dangustoday at 5:31 PM

I feel like re-reading this sentence a few times sends me right to the twilight zone of AI psychosis.

It’s 2026 and self-driving cars can’t tell the difference between a puddle and a flooded street, something a 3 year old can do.

Google literally just got off stage telling us that AGI is almost here. Wake me up when this doesn’t feel like an NFT ape fever dream.

And here we are talking about this like “oh gosh golly I wonder if this is some simple thing that could have been easily solved but they were trying to avoid regressions”

Get out of town, man.

I wish every dollar spent by investors on Waymo went into more frequent public bus service instead. A regular-ass bus with a human driver.

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