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Sam Altman Won in Court Against Elon Musk. But, We All Lost

89 pointsby littlexsparkeetoday at 1:07 PM51 commentsview on HN

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ryandraketoday at 2:38 PM

"When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers."

There's really nobody for normal people to root for in this battle. They're fighting over who gets to wield the dick that is going to screw us all.

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pj_mukhtoday at 2:33 PM

This is a weird fantasy among the literati that AI is a "scam", that we can "expose" them with lots of palace intrigue coverage and SBF or Elizabeth Holmes them away and then everything will be right in the world. Some of the best models are Chinese and Open-source and so-so good and Sam Altman is wholly irrelevant to them.

Some folks are in for a very rude awakening.

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Curosinonotoday at 2:20 PM

E.H. promised her investors a magic cure -> sharlatan

Sam B. stole money from everyone -> thief

Sam A. did what?

And Musk wanted to do the same thing. Both agreeded, that a non profit will not make enough money to push the frontier. He is only pissed that he didn't get control of openai and he is now pissed again because he apparently should have done the lawsuite a few years back. Despite him having unlimited money and probably very good laywers

I'm not here to defend the richest of the richest, but E.H. and S.B. are complet different storries to OpenAI

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xbartoday at 2:27 PM

A favorite quote: "The dubiousness of Altman’s character is [...] priced into his reputation."

booleanbetrayaltoday at 2:46 PM

I believe an upset to Altman and a re-characterization of OpenAI to a charitable stance would have left investors scrambling, and would likely have hastened an unwinding of the AI bubble to some degree. It feels like we'll be on this merry-go-round a good deal longer now.

vlucastoday at 2:05 PM

Sam didn't "win" the case in the sense that most people will think of when reading this headline.

In the 20th paragraph of the linked article, finally getting to the actual reason:

> On Monday, the jury took only two hours to reach its verdict. Musk’s complaint, the panel found, had indeed exceeded the statute of limitations

Musk is appealing. This fight is far from over.

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perilunartoday at 1:49 PM

An entertaining and scathing writeup.

alpertoday at 2:57 PM

Will we become Musk's slave or Altman's slave?

rsingeltoday at 2:16 PM

The kicker on this story is glorious

x0x7today at 2:55 PM

Elon fights for the users. He became unpopular when certain obedient people were told to dislike him for fighting for the users. But those people are just obedient to the interests of other billionaires.

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thisisauseridtoday at 1:58 PM

Exquisite prose merely to call two billionaires insufferable.

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acidhousemcnabtoday at 1:35 PM

https://archive.is/YtMv1

Reverse engineering sociopathy is hard, and takes time, and you need to drink a lot of water. Maybe the best outcome for the wellbeing of the jurors, because once you start, you can't stop, and suddenly people begin trying to silence or kill you. EDIT: over and out, follow the White Bear, good luck.

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jdidrirjrjotoday at 1:35 PM

Elon Musk is far right nazi supporter! Any loss for him is a win for humanity!

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nivekneytoday at 2:39 PM

"We"? Who "We"?

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