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joe_mambatoday at 1:07 PM2 repliesview on HN

>By the way, the Woz has a net-worth of 140MM, so he's more wealthy that the vast majority of "successful entrepreneur/investors",

So are a lot of people who invested(gambled) early in Bitcoin and Tesla, that doesn't mean people should take career advice from them just because they managed to make a lot of money.

But if you design and developed several successful tech products in your career, I think people should at least listen because it's a pattern rather than just luck.

>and also vastly more beloved than virtually all of them

So is Taylor Swift, that doesn't mean people should take career advice from her.

When I look for people to take advice from I want to see a pattern of home runs, that they can deliver successful products repeatedly, like Erich Schmidt or Steve Jobs, not one trick ponies like Woz who managed to get lucky once in a completely different era, then coast the next 50+ years on past glory giving speeches.

Again, I really like Woz as a person, he's my spirit animal, but that doesn't mean he's correct and in tune on the status of the tech market, the challenges people and entrepreneurs will face today. His experience being a HW tinkerer in his garage in the 1970's isn't relevant anymore today. The world has changed massively since then.

A more modern day woz would be Palmer Luckey of Anduril. Love him or hate him he's more up to date on what the industry rewards today if you want to be a garage tinkerer made billionaire entrepreneur founder than Woz.


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crispyambulancetoday at 1:17 PM

  > When I look for people to take advice from I want to see a pattern of home runs, that they can deliver repeatedly...
That's fine, I guess, if your idea of "success" is apple-scale product home-runs (good luck with that).

For those of us with more modest aspirations, listening to a cool person talk about cool stuff is a far better of use of time and attention.

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naravaratoday at 1:24 PM

Funny thing about Steve Jobs is that he actually didn’t deliver a single home run until his return to Apple late in his career.

The Apple II was Woz, the Mac was okay but mostly got shepherded into what it was by the other Apple leadership, the Lisa was a flop, Pixar he was an investor but was mostly Lasseter’s baby, NeXt went nowhere until the Apple acquisition.

The guy had somehow managed to make a successful career out of shipping very opinionated, interesting, and cool products that were commercial failures. If you were going purely by commercial performance you would not have picked him, you’d be picking him based on that ineffable reality distortion field of his that makes you BELIEVE everything he’s doing will change the world.

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