alt Hacker NewsDon't just paste the AI at me
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I was on a forum that had one member who is very knowledable on the subject of the forum. But now he...only ever responds with "I asked gemini your question, here's the answer:", and it's a real shame. His online person has become totally hollowed out. (These aren't like newb question threads, these are conversational topic threads). I think he doesn't know or care how valuable his point of view was. -_- Some communities aren't affected by this AI stuff negatively at all, but I suspect some communities (and people) are getting gutted.
( When he starts his own threads, they're now of the form "I asked gemini question X and this several-page-long attached markdown file is how it answered" )
Sending an AI response communicates more than just the response itself:
1. "I'm not entirely sure, but this is what it says to save you some time."
2. "You didn't ask the question precisely because you are not an SME, but I reworded it using the jargon that would allow the AI to answer better and here is the response."
3. "This response is AI, but in general my other ones are not"
4. "I trust the AI's response in this scenario."
I wonder if we gathered all of the "don't quote the ai" people and all of the lmgtfy people in the same place, would they cancel out? Like matter/anti-matter annihilation?
Totally fair argument to make right now. But so funny how this is the opposite movement of "Let me Google that for you".
tbh some questions deserve the ai response pasted at them. The type that you'd like lmgtfy at them before. The edge cuts both ways; if you put zero effort into your question, sometimes you deserve 0 effort responses. That being said, I always hesitate to do this since I'm an imperfect judge
They need to update the site a bit. Seems like they expected to get "dontpastetheai.com" but didn't?
Can I get a version of this without the over-the-top misanthropic "don't reproduce" comment?
I hate it when you quote the AI at me because you stop treating both yourself and me like humans who are communicating. I want to pull you up out of that dehumanization, not drop down into it myself in retaliation.
Seems a bit aggressive to send to someone. Let's spread love, not hate
See also:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48219992 - Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations (~1 day ago, 414 comments)
As a meta note, I'm seeing more downvoted responses in this comment section for reasonable points of view on both sides than I've ever seen for any HN topic.
It's interesting that this is so polarizing.
My parents come to me with questions about how to close a app on their iPad, and frankly I can not be asked to give them a walk through when I put chatgpt on their iPad for that reason.
And yes, my boss also uses AI and replying to their emails with this is frankly going to do nothing lol.
lmgtfy -> hwcs
Well, imagine not having the time in the world to read the 40 page docs that are referenced on a forum like this. By the time you read, analyze, absorb and make a conclusion, it is time to hit the sack. So, AI helps to analyze, TLDR, summarize the data. In a lot of cases, it's a question of time, not intelligence. HN is not a message board known for balanced opinions. I've found it to be a place where hate, threats get hurled incessantly. Just ask my Karma ;)
HN Wishlist:
HN can help with this by providing an option to TLDR the posts, or long-winded linked stories or documents on demand. Would also be great to have a tool to figure out who up-votes or down-votes users. Some of the down-votes appear to be malicious, without reason, but hey in a few months, that won't matter to me__Veni__Vidi__Vici__:)
Sol :)
"Don't just paste a URL to a search engine query containing my question."
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>you just proved that there's no difference between asking you or asking the AI.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
Please do not ask me questions that I know nothing more about than AI. Wish there was something like LMGTFY but for AI.
Turns out, there is such a thing as a stupid question after all: any question that a chatbot can answer that winds up wasting the time of a real human being because the asker was too lazy or inconsiderate to use resources that don't waste anyone else's time first.
>If they wanted the generic LLM answer, they'd have gotten it in four seconds without involving you, which is, in fact, easier.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but... while it can be seductively tempting to assume all humans act this logically, I must unfortunately be the one to inform you that, no, they do not, and no, they often don't get the answer that they were able to get themselves in four seconds without me, and instead choose to waste my time instead.
Funniest thing about this is that I think it's ~all~ (edit) mostly LLM-generated (and Pangram agrees). I think the biggest tell these days is when the text is generated in a way that seems like it was intended to be funny, but the jokes never land.
> Well... Hate to disappoint
Hmm, the capital H is a grammatical error, so this is likely not entirely LLM-generated. But the hundreds of words explaining something as basic as how to read AI output doesn't seem likely to be written entirely by a human.
I don't know what's worse:
1. Asking a question which could be answered by an AI
2. Pasting an AI response to something
If 1 is fair game, I'd say 2 is too.
This is not clever. A lot of people do not understand what LLMs are capable of now. It can be learning experience to show a product person how they can leverage LLMs rather than acting like you're the know-it-all by obfuscating the fact that you used an LLM to answer a question
Overdramatic: when I saw friends and acquaintances doing this I couldn't help but feeling a slight sense of loss--that we (I) have lost the person.
At that point, is the person still even a person? He's nothing more but a meat RPA, copy pasting responses.
The reason I value a person is the uniqueness of the person's brain's weights and biases. When I lose access to that and I get ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini weights and biases, isn't the person... essentially dead to me and the world?
It's a very unsettling thing to think about. What makes a person a person isn't the fact that the person's breathing air, eating food, copulating, defecating, but it's the person's wetware's weights and biases. Because without those, what is even this meat construct I'm talking to via WhatsApp?