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nobodywasisheretoday at 2:04 PM9 repliesview on HN

> didn't realize Kagi had no aspirations to build their own general purpose index

Kagi employee here. We're actively working on building our own indexes beyond the limited ones we have now, not just a general index but also purpose built indexes for things like programming, etc.


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rpdillontoday at 3:29 PM

I did not intend to spread misinformation here, and would like to hear more about the general-purpose index Kagi is working on. I had based my comment on several Kagi pages, but mostly https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm..., which mentions Teclis as Kagi's own index, but https://teclis.com/ makes it pretty clear that it's a "small web"-focused tool:

> Teclis is an attempt to surface the less known web, the web of creativity and self expression, the more humane web.

> Teclis includes its own crawl as well as results from Kagi Small Web index and results with permission from Marginalia Search.

> Teclis works best with broad queries such as 'machine learning', 'vegan diet', 'religion' etc..

Is there another crawler doing the general-purpose stuff?

esperenttoday at 2:11 PM

How broad will they be? Do you aim to ever have large scale indexing of the web?

Xunjintoday at 3:39 PM

Hey do you guys have posts or sharing about it? It would be awesome to see what you are trying to accomplish, maybe it's time to post on HN ;)

Dwedittoday at 4:02 PM

How do you build a search index in the days of Anubis pages everywhere?

tokaitoday at 4:13 PM

So you will stop buying Yandex data at some point?

ljmtoday at 3:09 PM

What are the challenges of doing that when so much of the internet has turned itself into SEO slop to fit Google's algorithms?

I imagine there is still a whole load of stuff out there on the internet that Google would never surface because it doesn't have enough adsense or whatever. Are you finding that?

echelontoday at 2:19 PM

Hurry. Google might give up the ghost on its search product and maintaining indices on anything not geared for LLMs.

I'm not sure antitrust will help you.

jwrtoday at 2:31 PM

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xnxtoday at 2:47 PM

> We're actively working on building our own indexes

Lip service. You'll have some token index of Wikipedia or something so you can say your results are "a blend of our own index and other sources".

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