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JCattheATMtoday at 3:23 AM2 repliesview on HN

My thinking was in a historical context, and for their desktop OS's. I know they've been pretty on top of things with iPhones, and MacOS has become a lot better, but for the longest time MacOS was pretty lacking, coasting very much on promoting how much PCs have viruses and macs didn't, which was a marketshare thing more than a security thing. I don't think they got ASLR until later than pretty much everyone else, for example.

They've improved a lot, especially their phones, but I'd still never consider them a company that has a really strong focus on security.


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xyzzy123today at 3:44 AM

Agree that pre Apple Silicon, macOS didn't get much focus. Fair point historically.

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KennyBlankentoday at 4:50 AM

They were not "coasting" on anything. Everything about OS X has always been designed to protect users from the stuff Apple hasn't caught yet, because they know they can't always catch it first - and Apple has led the pack in nearly every major OS security feature of the last 25 years.

That includes "don't give the user root, and ask the user for their password before doing dangerous things" - four years before Linux distros started moving to a similar model.

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