alt Hacker NewsLast.fm is now independent
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last.fm is one of my very favorite services. It's rough around the edges in some parts, but I've gotten incredible value from it. A couple of websites built on it that I check out from time to time:
- https://lastfmviz.netlify.app/ - shows what you've been listening to as a grid of album covers. You can scroll down as long as you want. It's cool to look back and remember where I was when listening to specific music.
- https://lastfmstats.com/ - generates tons of rankings, line charts, racing bar charts, etc. A couple I like: "Artist streaks" (I listened to Pavement tracks 122 times in a row in August 2023), "Unique artists in a single month" (225 in July 2025) and "Unique weeks per artist/album/track" (good to identify what you're always listening to vs. what you listened to heavily in a specific time)
- https://pmcdonough8133.github.io/last.timer/ - shows your listening rankings by hours, minutes instead of just scrobble count. This really should be a default feature in the site, as some artists have average track length 2-3x times of others.
If you use Spotify, another site I've had loads of fun with is https://explorify.link/.
Last.fm used to be special, but this was a long time ago. Just tried to login, recovered the password and seems that its just a tracker nowadays. In the past I could listen to music and drop a comment, meet new people, etc.
the previous owner doesnt appear to be mentioned in the post (or, at least, not easily found).
CBS Coporation (owned by Paramount) bought last.fm in 2007
I'm mostly unfamiliar with the current offering of last.fm, but the name is familiar from way back. Glad to see something well-liked reclaim some independence.
At a glance, they're providing an interface to YT sourced content with some value adds around tracking or categorizing listening.
A quick question for users: can the site itself be configured as a listener without streaming / displaying the video? In general, YT has a lot of music, but the perf hit of streaming typically high-quality video as well is a blocker when doing dev work on my main machine.
I love Last.fm, I've been scrobbling for over 20 years now.
It's amazing to me that they have managed to stick around like they have. They're very much an "old internet" site, and I hope they can stick around for many many more years.
So CBS spun them back out as their own corp or did the employee's or someone else buy it from CBS?
Just declaring themselves independent without details doesn't provide much context. I feel like Michael Scott just declared bankruptcy.
I've moved over to ListenBrainz, it's quite nice and I like that the data is open and not trying to be monitized
I still use last.fm via Spotify. It is wild to see my entire listening history from 11th grade to present (20 years!). Always fun to poke through and see changes from one year or life phase to the next.
Looking forward to scrobbling again
Back in the day, was heavily influenced by last.fm for this BBC 6music GWAP mooso.fm
one of the very first programming projects I took on was to figure out how to scrobble the records that I was playing. It was my first exposure to so many things: Ruby, FFIs, audio processing, audio fingerprinting (I think I used echo nest ?). Ended up going to local meetups to ask for advice.
last.fm is one of those services that is from the pinnacle of the open web.
There's still a ton of value in the historical recommendations on last.fm's site. What its future looks like, I'm not sure. I'd love to know who is going to operate it now that it is independent.
I'd recommend ListenBrainz for folks interested in similar tracking and some recommendations with clearer ownership.
For my own historical interests, I have a Navidrome plugin writing to my own API and surface charts across time periods by querying the postgres database it writes to.
Great news! Related[0]. The presentation video in the linked article from 2002 is a gem.
This seems like a positive step. It never made sense (to me at least) for CBS Paramount to own it.
Huge opportunity to allow folk to own their own (meta)data. /fingerscrossed
Unfortunately, unable to create an account on my laptop (WiFi) or phone (Verizon) - even in incognito.
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edit: maybe they saw my message or fixed a bug? signup now works everywhere for me.
Another alternative is listenbrainz [0], which is also self-hostable [1]. A smaller, lightweight, single user selfhostable alternative, and more about just the stats is Koito [2], and finally because obviously you want to scrobble everywhere at once, you can self-host Multi Scrobbler to scrobble to and from multiple sources at once. Yes, I like scrobbling ;)
[0]: https://listenbrainz.org/
[1]: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server
I hope that means it will improve now. There's such a rich space of features that they could do. Had some hope with their experimental Labs but I remember being underwhelmed and not seeing anything about it recently.
i recommend installing a browser add-on like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/web-scrobbler...
I have a history going back to 2012, which is great. I've always worried Spotify would stop working with last.fm, I wonder if this makes it more or less likely.
I don't know if I even have an account anymore, its been like 15 years since I last logged in...
This is very exciting. The music landscape is just as chaotic as it was back in 2007 (when CBS acquired Last.fm) if not even more complex these days. Can't wait to see what's next. <3
What a blast from the past. It was a pretty cool time to be a teenager in 04-06 with last.fm, MySpace, iPods, Limewire and music blogs.
Interesting! Hope they have a super lean team, and just focus on the niche, legacy web experience.
115,000 scrobbles: https://www.last.fm/user/whalesalad
I really only ever used it so that a girl I liked would be able to see what I was listening to. She commented on my page. We ended up getting together for a few years. I miss my youth.
Some previous discussions on this note:
Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web: 2002
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46266875
Last.fm turns 20
I remember Last.fm's value proposition was 1) discovery and 2) community. (1) is (mostly, for most people) covered by "feed" algorithms of Spotify and YouTube.
I wonder how they're going to position themselves now.
I honestly forgot last.fm was a thing. But good for them that they have independence now.
This is awesome! Anyone know who the humans behind the new company are?
Last.fm & in particular audioscrobbling has been such an amazing joy to have in the world. Music is so important to me, and it's amazing having this system to help see over time what friends and I myself enjoy.
These days, for auduiscrobbling, I recommend folks use either teal.fm (which alas is somewhat DIY or find-a-friend for their API service) or rocksky.app. There's a better credible exit, as it's based on atproto/Bluesky protocols, and a richer world of apps & interconnectivitiws emerging.
"The company has generated an operating loss for the year to 31 December 2024 of £690,252 (2023: profit of £1,509,544) and revenue of £2,215,381 (2023: £1,960,340). As at 31 December 2024, net liabilities were £45,506,488 (2023: £44,855,202)."
"The financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis on the grounds that Paramount Global has confirmed that it will continue to provide financial and other support to Last. FM Limited at least for the next twelve months and thereafter for the foreseeable future to enable Last.FM Limited to continue to meet all its liabilities as they fall due."
I wonder what their financing plan is, and what shape this independence will take, whether Paramount is retaining a minority ownership take? Seems like they might just be able to scrape break even based on current revenue.
And I try to "Start Now"
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I think this is fantastic change and wish them the best, this is probably just a small hickup I experienced and I wil try again later.
BTW, I recently cancelled my youtube premium, it was just too expensive. Never was subscribed to Spotify, so I need different ways to listen to music.
Anyone else music listening habits change in the past six months to listening to one owns AI Slop? My slop (been a real hobby songwriter of melodies & lyrics since a kid..decades ago) has the most meaning to me it’s just not me singing. Now it sounds pro and some ppl when I’m playing it actually like it vs. my own rough demos (guitar, vocal and added drums/bass via GarageBand). I actually don’t care if others hear my slop as it’s all my own ideas…words and melodies which have way more meaning then Listening to another’s music/songs.
I’ve been telling close friend about this and then I see this verge article saying in not the only one https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/937059/n...
Man i love last.fm even though it's been technically superseded (for most people) by Spotify's recommendation features. It just fit so well in the zeitgeist of 2000's indie scene, microblogs, early social media.