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e40yesterday at 7:47 PM7 repliesview on HN

Now imagine TSMC being controlled by China. While I think it's fairly low probability, the imagination does create some pretty dystopian scenarios.


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utopiahyesterday at 7:58 PM

How would that work? They can't take the fabs (single door opened and dust makes it all useless) and even if they could they can't run ASML machines with their support. So... labor camp fabs on unmaintained STOA hardware from a single company everybody relies on? I can't imagine that scenario. Either they manage to redeploy the whole value chain (not saying it's impossible but doesn't seem to be the case at scale for now) or taking Taiwan by force is mostly a political show, not a technological one.

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nemomarxyesterday at 7:58 PM

China would probably want to increase production and export more? What are you worried about specifically

they don't price gouge on other stuff from shenzhen really do

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azan_yesterday at 9:25 PM

I don't think that "China is evil" (or at least more evil than US) is reasonable position to hold nowadays.

DrProticyesterday at 8:12 PM

They’re literally worlds’ factory but that’s where things would turn bad?

conspyesterday at 7:55 PM

In that case my retro hardware collection will be worth even more. (Note: that my current hardware will likely be retro faster than I assume it would have been)

I also found out recently my matched, working 3d hardware from the '90s was worth more than my actual year-old medium-high end video card, so who knows!

/s for obvious reasons, except the rise in prices of 3dfx cards ffs (wtaf).

joecotyesterday at 7:56 PM

China, who keeps undercutting ai prices and producing things efficiently?

I don't have to imagine what it would be like under communism in order to see what it's already like under capitalism.

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sdenton4yesterday at 7:57 PM

Dystopian scenarios... Like even more expensive steam decks.