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yieldcrvyesterday at 11:13 PM2 repliesview on HN

DOJ or the court hasnt seemed to post the indictment yet

Its really interesting because the article describes this as yet another case where the defendant moved to conceal their trades after the fact

When crypto used in specific ways can conceal your trades before the fact which alone wouldn't be a crime because obfuscating funds of legal origin is not a crime, while properly obfuscating funds of illicit origin would never be attributed to a person, as such the crime of money laundering can only ever be a tacked on crime to help increase the gravity of a sentence.

Otherwise the feds would have to immediately subpoena the oracle’s source for who had access upon resolution of every market, which would be a phenomenal waste of taxpayer resources, and even then not be able to prove someone traded if they had pre-obfuscated funds long in advance.

Anyone that keeps a balance of Monero is already in a good place, just pop on Tor and fund a virgin polygon address at that point in time

I hardly see a reason to have any clear addresses that werent initially funded by a treasury of Monero, swapped atomically or on a service triggered by a deposit of monero that spits out an equivalent on another chain

From all state actions I’ve seen for a decade straight in the crypto space, this largely seems to be an education issue that makes the state’s ability to prosecute a brief privilege


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otterleyyesterday at 11:37 PM

DOJ press release: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/google-employee-charged...

Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/media/1442621/dl

Apparently the suspect is a staff engineer at Google with a 12-year tenure. He presumably had plenty of money arising from his employer and rank; why risk both his job and a felony conviction over a measly $1.2 million?

Also, let's not turn this into a "how to" or otherwise endorse insider trading or breach of our respective duties...

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pcwaltonyesterday at 11:43 PM

> From all state actions I’ve seen for a decade straight in the crypto space, this largely seems to be an education issue that makes the state’s ability to prosecute a brief privilege

Or, you know, they could come up to you in a San Francisco public library while your computer is unlocked and logged into your account, slap handcuffs on you, and image the contents of the laptop's RAM, establishing proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you had access to the Monero account in question. Just like they did with Ross Ulbricht.

If there's anything you should learn from the history of state actions in this space, it's that the USG is very good at overturning naive assumptions about the real-world anonymity of these technologies.

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