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Fooling around with encrypted reasoning blobs

69 pointsby supermatoulast Friday at 10:06 AM9 commentsview on HN

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glitchctoday at 4:14 AM

Very interesting. The state management is the really insightful find here.

I always wondered how these large AI companies managed access for millions of simultaneous users without having to allocate a dedicated LLM instance for each user. Pushing the complete state down to the user after every call makes perfect sense. The LLM itself stays memoryless and ready to respond to an arbitrary prompt. Very nice.

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Groxxtoday at 5:06 AM

One possible use for the "replay across accounts": if you can get a reasoning block that jailbreaks the model, you could share that block without sharing how you did it, and others can immediately take advantage of it too.

hhhtoday at 6:58 AM

Awesome write-up. Seems like a great way to play with model responses now that prefill is gone.

Reubendtoday at 3:32 AM

Super cool side channel attack. I tend to agree that it's pretty impractical, but it's such a fun discovery!

Retr0idtoday at 2:58 AM

Very cool idea to use thinking duration (either in tokens or in wall time) as a side-channel!

haeseongtoday at 5:12 AM

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