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kennywinkertoday at 4:52 PM1 replyview on HN

You’re straw-manning your own misconception of the reason for inclusivity, not the reason I gave.

Inspiring specific groups to follow a career path by showing them people on that path is “representation” not inclusivity. Representation matters because it’s easier (not impossible, as you suggest the argument is) to see yourself e.g. as a nurse or a teacher if you have seen male nurses or teachers succeeding.

Representation matters, but not nearly as much as the opposite side of things - who gets opportunities. Which is what I was talking about.

Btw one of the major groups that have benefitted from the dreaded “DEI” in universities has been white men. They are an under-represented group in many post-secondary settings.


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parineumtoday at 7:50 PM

> Representation matters, but not nearly as much as the opposite side of things - who gets opportunities.

You're acting like these things aren't intertwined.

You can't adjust the lever of representation without affecting who gets opportunities.

You can believe what you want about the merits of adjusting those levers but to pretend like you can limit your pool of people to a smaller group of people and not affect the apex of the talent pool is disengenous. Be honest and say you think it's worth it.

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