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bawolfftoday at 5:12 PM2 repliesview on HN

> As vegans and vegetarians (and decades earlier, non-smokers) have shown, you can have a principled stance on something without forcing that stance on others.

If you truly believe something is evil, i think that is difficult. Like imagine if someone said, i believe murder is wrong but i dont want to force that on others. Or, i dont really like slavery but that's just me and others should be slave owners if they feel that is right.

Obviously there is a spectrum of moral ills, and not all are created equal, but if you truly believe something is abhorent, you can't be a good person and tolerate it in others


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skrebbeltoday at 5:47 PM

> If you truly believe something is evil, i think that is difficult.

Yes, and that’s my point. Most vegans truly believe that meat equals murder. Yet the vast majority of them will go out for dinner with people they truly deeply believe are (indirect) murderers. This is indeed very difficult for them.

Locking yourself out of society isn’t likely to help achieve any sort of moral progress.

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juleiietoday at 5:28 PM

There is no such thing as good person or evil person anywhere else other than in human society.

It’s just a brain fart to make you cooperate and evolutionary survive. You don’t need to listen to this primitive instinct. You can just choose consciously what you think is the best.

Do not share or propagate or promote this view however. Our society only works thanks to most people being slaves to these tremors.

Sometimes I get an impression that it isn’t even a freedom of choice, some must perceive themselves as "good people" as a highest imperative. Whatever that means for current century.

I like to view myself as grey person.

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