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kherudyesterday at 7:16 PM4 repliesview on HN

Feedback about creatine often seems mixed. Many love it, but many also report problems. Just in this thread there are people talking about heart palpitations and sleep problems. I have the theory that these side effects and mixed experiences come from impurities of lesser quality products. Apparently there are mostly two sources: Creatine mono-hydrate which mostly comes from China and "creapure", which is a patented formula known for its purity. Does anyone have insight into how substantiated this theory is? How likely are negative effects because of pollutants/impurities?


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bhelkeyyesterday at 8:22 PM

> Creatine mono-hydrate which mostly comes from China and "creapure", which is a patented formula known for its purity.

Creapure sells Creatine Monohydrate not a proprietary form of creatine [1]. The higher end in creatine is Creatine HCL which is more expensive but more water soliable, easier on the stomach, and requires a smaller dose.

In terms of creatine manufactured in the Western World:

* CON-CRĒT manufactures creatine in the US, they produce Creatine HCL.

* Creapure manufactures creatine in Germany. They produce Creatine Monohydrate.

There are also a variety of brands that import creatine and run various tests to ensure quality.

[1] https://www.creapure.com/en/creapure/what-is-creapure/

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dempedempeyesterday at 7:29 PM

On the sleep deprivation topic, adenosine buildup in the brain is, along with melatonin, one of the brain's core sleep mechanisms. As you expend energy during the day, adenosine builds up, so your brain has an idea of how long you've been awake.

Creatine recycles adenosine back into ATP, so less adenosine builds up. The amount of creatine you find in foods naturally is way less than the amount people are supplementing with.

So it makes sense physiologically why mega doses of creatine might negatively affect sleep.

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SkyPuncheryesterday at 7:39 PM

Some people simply don’t digest the monohydrate form well. I get all of the symptoms you list.

The HCL form is more expensive, but does wonders for me. None of the negative side effects.

markdownyesterday at 8:30 PM

> "creapure", which is a patented formula known for its purity

You mean known for its branding. Most people have never heard of creapure and those who do haven't tested it for purity.

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