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dvtyesterday at 10:20 PM4 repliesview on HN

LLMs can live in the cloud, but all tools need to be (1) local, and (2) containerized. It's clear to me that just willy-nilly "running stuff" is going to blow things up eventually. Maybe folks don't know this, but even Codex installs random binaries on your PC. "Read this PDF" installs a pdf reader executable. Is it vetted? Where's it from? Is it a virus? Who knows, who cares. Model goes brrrr.

I'm working on a project that includes WASI containerization for local LLM workflows (which is a pretty tough problem), and I'm flabbergasted that Anthropic and OpenAI aren't more worried about these attack vectors. It feels like amateur hour.


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pikeryesterday at 11:01 PM

> I'm flabbergasted that Anthropic and OpenAI aren't more worried about these attack vectors

Yep. We tricked them both trivially with malicious fonts in Docx files. Documented it here: https://tritium.legal/blog/noroboto

I wonder if prompt injection (and the thousands of vectors for hiding injection attempts) is actually un solvable. Discussing it may be existential to the business model.

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CoastalCoderyesterday at 10:43 PM

I share your worries.

Unfortunately, this may be akin to the situation of "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

torben-friisyesterday at 10:29 PM

>"Read this PDF" installs a pdf reader executable.

How does this work regarding Macos notarization btw?

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bossyTeacheryesterday at 10:37 PM

> I'm flabbergasted that Anthropic and OpenAI aren't more worried about these attack vectors. It feels like amateur hour.

"Move fast. Break things." on steroids.

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