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verdvermyesterday at 4:01 PM6 repliesview on HN

The politics of anti-* is tiring. Where are the people and politicians with optimism and a vision? The issues with data centers are manageable. It's quite hard to bring X back to America if Americans oppose the buildings we need (factories, power gen, data centers). I wonder how much of this is the powerful and adversarial poisoning the discourse so America continues to stumble and fall from hegemony?


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nemomarxyesterday at 4:09 PM

If you want people to support anything, show them how it benefits them. Do it as directly as possible - new jobs in their town, lower energy bills from a new plant, etc. People will generally follow the money.

What won't work is something like "it'll be better for the economy in the entire country, so put up with some disruption for a while." No one likes higher electricity bills while a power plant is being constructed, a new building going up too close to their homes that doesn't create jobs they can apply for, etc. It's a losing message to promise the payoff only years later or indirectly.

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NoGravitastoday at 2:59 PM

> The politics of anti-* is tiring. Where are the people and politicians with optimism and a vision?

China.

8noteyesterday at 4:09 PM

> The issues with data centers are manageable.

are they? whats been done to solve the infrasound pollution?

governments haven't even managed to get datacenters to follow clean air regulation

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mcmcmcyesterday at 4:09 PM

The US has always had reactionaries, especially around topics construed as existential threats

freejazzyesterday at 5:17 PM

> Where are the people and politicians with optimism and a vision?

Seems like an assumption on your part that being pro-data center reflects "vision" and "optimism."

add-sub-mul-divyesterday at 4:13 PM

We've heard a lot of optimism about Facebook, Google, etc. and now see all those companies having too much power over us and sucking worse eeach year. So we've evolved our thinking. Sorry it's tiring.

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