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egorfineyesterday at 6:20 PM1 replyview on HN

> that doesn't mean that cron is the solution that needs to accompany us until the heat

Yeah I agree.

> systemd folks haven't exactly been the best when it comes to PR

It's deeper than that. Systemd folks are enemies of Linux. First, it's "fuck your opinion, do as we say" attitude which makes me want to throw away everything that comes from that poisonous well. Second, it's the embrace and extinguish strategy employed by the systemd project. And third, systemd author is up to no good: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46784572


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mschuster91yesterday at 7:58 PM

> First, it's "fuck your opinion, do as we say" attitude which makes me want to throw away everything that comes from that poisonous well.

On the other hand, it is a consistently heard argument when debating why the year of the Linux adoption on desktop hasn't happened yet is that there are too many standards, too many cooks. And I kinda agree with that, packaging software for multiple distributions is a hot mess, especially if you're shipping daemons. systemd is at least one worry less, it's a stable API that can be used for all purposes.

> And third, systemd author is up to no good: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46784572

Again, this isn't as black-and-white as it seems on a cursory review.

From the perspective of someone who hates anti-rooting measures on phones, anything moving into the direction of trusted computing is bad.

But from the perspective of someone, say, in Russia, Iran, the US or Germany who might be a journalist or political activist? Suddenly, a way for the OS to attest if the hardware hasn't been manipulated in an evil maid scenario and that any successful attempt of exploiting an OS vulnerability at runtime can be reverted by a simple reboot becomes extremely vulnerable.

My personal opinion, we need strong and good attestation capabilities for a multitude of use cases. But we also need good laws that protect user freedoms, similar to "right to repair" laws we need "right to root" laws that ban applications from requiring unrooted phones.

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