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observationistyesterday at 8:16 PM9 repliesview on HN

How's your IBM mainframe doing, these days? Wait, you use Watson, right?

IBM still exists. They're the perfect example of how far a corporate behemoth can keep rolling after it effectively dies.

Microsoft is effectively dead.

It's easier and less hassle to use Linux desktop environments than to wrestle with Windows bullshit. Their flagship product is a sad joke, their leadership is flailing for purpose, and their entire corporation is bloated and unable to focus on anything meaningful.

That doesn't mean they'll disappear tomorrow, or in 5 years, or even in 20. They've already lost whatever relevance they had, and will have to fight to get it back. There will be something called Microsoft still churning recognizably Microsoft slop, because they have a lot of money and resources with which to continue flailing.

It's the year of the Linux desktop, and Windows has fallen.


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john_strinlaiyesterday at 8:28 PM

>IBM still exists. They're the perfect example of how far a corporate behemoth can keep rolling after it effectively dies.

wish i ran a dead company that did 67 billion in revenue last year, with year-over-year increases.

>Microsoft is effectively dead.

damn, and this dead company did 280 billion in revenue last year.

(you have a ~unique~ definition of dead.)

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andsoitisyesterday at 8:23 PM

> Microsoft is effectively dead.

Microsoft is the 4th largest company by market cap.

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pipesyesterday at 9:52 PM

Sorry, very much disagree:

- c# is a great language that is looked down on by people who haven't used it.

- typescript is also amazing and has helped massively in web front end development and backend.

- .net is cross platform especially in the backend world.

- windows backwards compatibility and hardware support is way better than the alternatives.

- yeah windows 11 is full of so much adware crap it's a shame but i recently switchedy home desktop back to it after giving up trouble shooting a network card driver issue on Linux. The same issue I've encountered multiple times over 22 years running on different hardware.

- and all my gog games just work on windows :)

- yes I know proton, it's amazing, I have a steam deck, but not everything works easily or at all.

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pjmlpyesterday at 9:20 PM

IBM owns Linux thanks to Red-Hat investments, alongside all the ones that have done directly.

GCC, OpenJ9, Wayland, GNOME, systemd,...

Valve has to translate Windows games to have any content worth playing on Steam Deck.

Everyone and their dog use VSCode, npm, Typescript, Github, LinkedIn,...

grim_ioyesterday at 8:26 PM

I wish, but it's far from it.

There is no other IAM/SIEM solution that I know of out there that makes it possible for a single guy to manage the companies' strict compliance requirements.

The complete integration just keeps getting more valuable and hard to replace every day.

thewebguydyesterday at 8:27 PM

Eh, I don't think they're quite dead yet. Microsoft isn't a direct parallel to IBM. IBM ignored the cloud early and fell behind because of it, they had to buy Red Hat to remain any kind of relevance at all.

Meanwhile, Azure is the #2 cloud and still growing pretty fast. They own nearly the entire dev tool ecosystem at most companies (Github, VSCode, NPM), and pretty much every single F500 company's IT runs on Microsoft tech, for better or for worse.

The mistake is thinking that Windows is still their flagship product. It's not, it's basically a side quest now.

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Xfx7028yesterday at 8:47 PM

It's dead for you and me since we won't willfully use any of the slop products they put out, but as long as they produce the default OS for most of the PCs that the average Joe buys, they aren't going anywhere. I'm not entirely sure how this works, but I don't think there are many Linux distros/organizations that will pay for manufacturers to install Linux on the PCs.

The there is also the cloud like other comments already mentioned.

afavouryesterday at 10:13 PM

> It's easier and less hassle to use Linux desktop environments than to wrestle with Windows bullshit.

Almost every corporate IT deployment disagrees with you. Linux is free, if companies could switch to it with no negative consequences they would. And yet they don't.

gigel82yesterday at 9:20 PM

Are you high on your own supply, or did you genuinely hallucinate a reality where a $3 trillion company is dying because a handful of Redditors learned how to use Proton?