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XorNotyesterday at 10:52 PM0 repliesview on HN

The EU has scored wins there though.

The mobile phone industry turns product into landfill on a yearly or more frequent basis.

People might do a yearly model swap on a car, but the car itself stays on the road for 10-20 years.

Changing how it's built needs to be done cautiously, but also has a much longer payback period.